9 years, 7 months ago.

BUTTONS

Hello Mike, I'm trying to use your controller instead of the one installed in a virtuapin cabinet. Pinscape controller is now showing up: 1)Axle Z doesn't work (same after calibration). 2) There is only one button OK (the one used as digital plunger) button #24 (Virtuapin default configuration). I tried with different mapping (from pinball wizard controller), several buttons are recognized but all as button #24. Don't you think the board KL25Z is dead? Thanks Thierry

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An input/output controller for virtual pinball machines, with plunger position tracking, accelerometer-based nudge sensing, button input encoding, and feedback device control.

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9 years, 7 months ago.

If you're seeing the device show up successfully as a USB device in Windows, then the KL25Z is probably fine.

When you say that the Z axis isn't working, do you mean that you've set up the TSL1410R CCD sensor and can't get that working? Have you tried looking at the exposure viewer in the Windows configuration tool?

How do you have the buttons wired physically? What do you see in the button display when you look at the Windows "set up USB game controllers" control panel?

Thanks for your quick reply Mike.

As this is all new to me, I just used the default Pinscape_Controller_KL25Z.bin, nothing else at this stage. Exposure viewer shows the same thing whatever you do.

Regarding the wiring, it is from my VirtuaPin cabinet (built by them): Digital plunger -> PTE1 - 20 Right Flipper -> PTE0 - 18 Ground -> GND - 14 Right Magnasave -> PTD1 - 12 Exit Table -> PTA13 - 2 -- Start Game -> PTC9 - 16 Left Flipper -> PTC8 - 14 Left Magnasave -> PTA5 - 12 Insert Coin -> PTA4 - 10 Ground -> PTA1 - 2

Tested with "USB game controllers" control panel: only Digital Plunger button lights button#24, nothing happens with the others.

posted by Thierry Malartic 20 Sep 2014

Okay, I think I understand. The wiring for the VirtuaPin kit is completely different from what you need for my software. This isn't replacement software for their kit - it's a completely different setup that happens to use KL25Z, but is otherwise unrelated. The plunger that they use has a different type of sensor (VirtuaPin uses an IR proximity sensor; my setup uses a CCD array) - you can't use their sensor with my software. The wiring for the buttons is also completely different.

You can certainly convert the wiring, but it's not a plug-and-play conversion. You'll have to start from scratch and rewire everything. Download the hardware build guide on the Pinscape Controller project page and look at the section on button wiring - that will show you how you need to redo the wiring. The hardware instructions for the plunger in the guide as well. You can use the actual mechanical part of the VirtuaPin plunger, but you'll have to remove the black tube with the sensor and instead install the CCD sensor as described in the build guide.

If it's not already obvious, I should warn you that this is a fairly advanced electronics project. If you aren't familiar with building electronics projects like this, you might want to go back to the original VirtuaPin software.

posted by Mike R 20 Sep 2014

I'm definitely not able to handle a project like this. Is there a possiblity to buy a complete kit somewhere as it seems to be the best?

posted by Thierry Malartic 21 Sep 2014

I'm afraid it's a purely DIY project. One thing you might try is asking on one of the cabinet builder forums (such as vpforums.org) to see if you can find anyone nearby who might want to collaborate with you on the project.

One other possibility is that I've heard that Zeb of zebsboards.com has a new plunger kit. I haven't heard any user reviews of it yet (I think he just made it available in the last couple of weeks), but I have some of his other products and I think he does great work.

posted by Mike R 21 Sep 2014

Thank you very much for your help. I've just sent an email to Zeb.

posted by Thierry Malartic 21 Sep 2014